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Some of Us Aren't Cowards by AmericanDreaming Some of Us Aren't Cowards by AmericanDreaming
Cenk Uygur is the host of "The Young Turks." Check them out on youtube.

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namezong Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2014
I generally like to listen to him,
altough he derails into liberal BS ocasionnaly.
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hooded-wanderer Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2014  Student General Artist
Very wise words indeed; tis a shame some numbnuts on here would rather look at a man's political leanings to discredit him then to actually commend him.

Le sigh, welcome to the internet. 
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AmericanDreaming Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014
What's funny is that progressives are always treated with vitriol from the right, but looking through history the left in America has been on the right (or should I say correct) side of nearly every issue.
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Even a broken clock is right twice a day >_>

But every other second, every other minute, every other hour...

... he's still one broken-ass clock.
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AmericanDreaming Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014
Don't worry, the Ayn Rand phase will pass. It's like acne, though some unfortunate souls are left with its scars for the rest of their lives.
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Is that another Cenk quote, or wishful thinking?

Either way, it's still just hot air to me.

I'm not so objectivist as to call myself Randian, but there's enough nuggets of truth as to make the meal a palatable one.
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Rasheedzee Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
is the next protest this sunday, the 8th?
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013
Yet this guy is cowardly enough to call people racist when he runs out of ways to defend Obama.
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AmericanDreaming Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013
:rofl: Clearly you've never watched The Young Turks.  He criticizes Obama as fiercely as he ever criticized Bush.

Secondly, this quote has nothing to do with racism, so I'm not even sure why you brought that up, or what that has to do with defending Obama.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013
From what I've seen, he complains about Obama not trying harder to push his policies through, while pretty much calling Bush a Nazi. So no, I don't think your statement was accurate.
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SilverScarCat Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbIBEN… - He calls out Obama so much from 2011 about some of the stuff that he's done before the massive leaks.

So much so that people accused him of being against Obama.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013
From your video: "There's a second reason that I'm tough on the president- because I don't want him to lose."

(after the first reason was "Obama gives into the Republicans too much.")

My point stands.
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SilverScarCat Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
Considering that the alternative was Mitt Romney, do you blame him?

I voted for Gary Johnson, BTW.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013
Yes, I do blame him. Mitt Romney was, at worst, a flip-flopper. Barack Obama is very consistent in his complete rejection of liberty, and his lust for totalitarian power. And Cenk even goes so far as to call himself a "progressive," suggesting that he too believes that totalitarian government power is right.

Cenk Uygur is just another goosestepping national socialist.
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SilverScarCat Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013
One question...

Do you know what socialism means?
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SilverScarCat Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
Considering the alternative was Romney at the time, do you blame him?

I voted for Gary Johnson, BTW.
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WindScar8 Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
It's a nice thought, infact I agree more than a little bit, to quote somebody "I'm an old fashioned Democrat, the government should do for people what they can't do for themselves and in everything else get the hell out."

Doesn't sound like any democrats I know but still I agree with the thought. The Government has been spying on the US people since the start of the cold war, it's nothing new we just act like it is. The NSA has so much ability to watch us because we do so much electronically these days. How about we unplug for a little bit and that will stop the bugging, because they will have nothing to listen to.

Just a thought
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Marsmar Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013
Considering how intertwined the modern world is with technology, that's a bit hard to do. Hell, here you are suggesting the very idea on a public forum online for all to see. It's sort of like telling the modern world to cease all use of oil or related resourced because of the environmental impact. sure the idea sounds good but it becomes impossible when applies to the modern world. 

Rather than simply unplugging ourselves, it would better serve the country to have something done about the people listening to us when we're plugged in. As impossible as that is also. 
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WindScar8 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
What you says makes sense sir, and I agree on all counts
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lisa-im-laerm Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
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Sei-ey Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2013  Student General Artist
I don't know man, There so many people out there that just don't care, don't understand, or don't have the time to perform their civic duties...I wish politicians and peoples with religious agendas would stop trying to control the actions and behaviors of others. Those people that I mentioned before just have a live and let live attitude, but there is always some lazy, opportunistic, predatory animal out there, that wants someone else to pull the cart for them...The whole thing is very conflicting...sight, I assume is all part of human nature, always the same cycles always repeating...

About the quote you know, its just more complicated that saying you aren't a coward. I mean am not opposing it or anything, but I figure nature has made us with a balancing act of some sort. It all depends on how cornered the animal feels and then the rage comes out or not...
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AmericanDreaming Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
It's ironic because some people are so consumed in the rat race and the day to day struggle to make ends meet that they say they have no time to be politically informed or active, and yet if such people made the time, we could fix some of the societal problems that contribute to them having to struggle and toil endlessly for little gain in the first place.

Such people aren't the problem, but at a much lower cost of time and energy than they think, they can easily be part of the solution.
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Sei-ey Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Student General Artist
That is a very good observation, but for aome reason people don't seem to grasp the idea...Take for example these free trade agreements that are happening, allowing corporations like Coca Cole or some other,  to go to people's countries, buy up their land, use their resources, "provide jobs" so people can buy their products. But getting people to simply drink water...seems to them like it's a wort it trade off...

I just don't understand these type of behavior, Sure we can explain it buy the advertisement and propaganda, but still some individuals just arn't born to ask questions. And then you have the people that do and manipulate this people like it's a game, competing amonts themselves to see who has the most power, and thats probably the natural structure of things. 

If those individuals that need power in their lives wouldn't attain it where would we be...I suppose am not different and that's why I've settled for drawing so I can exert a modicum of control. And all these things that happen are probably just an outside projection of the Locus of Control psycologist talk about all humans develop in order to live and prosper. If the people who are currently playing at control in the governmentrigth now would just realise this and relaxed the grip for a few years, but rarely they do, until everything goes kaput and then peace again...
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AmericanDreaming Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
Some people are innately more sheepish than others, and some are more independent, but for most of us in the middle, it's largely a matter of societal norms and how you were raised.

In America, most people are not raised to be critical thinkers, and as a society ignorance and anti-intellectualism are not only widespread, but almost celebrated.  And it's a double whammy because not only does a lack of education and intellectualism correlate to lower income and thus more struggle, but it also correlates to lower political activity.

But one thing you can be sure of, those in power, those whose power and wealth depend on the rest of us below them, they LOVE our indifference, they love our complacency, they love that we're too busy running around to care. That's what allows them to do what they do.
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Sei-ey Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Student General Artist
I do feel stuck in the middle of somewhere... and the celebration of stupidity has always boggled my mind, and have arrived to the idea that it has a correlation with pleasure. The stupider the less responsibility, the less responsibility the more amount of time for pleasure, or at least that's the theory I have for now. I am sure up above someone is running the numbers, the statistics of the amount to invest in education, because its terrible. During the previous decades there where plenty of studies in education, the most famous of the period where Pavlov and Skinner on how an organism goes about learning. So the know how is there, but at some point it just reached a limit of some sort. And was it Rockefeller that said something about needed a nation of workers...now with everyone having a college degree at least in most of the western world, things have never been in history this way...

You know thinking about if those with wealth and power do love the complacency of people has kept me up at night, on hte one hand yes they need the peons to pull the carts, but they also have programs to aid a certain set of people. Bouth the Rockefellers and Rothschilds, so am sure other super wealthy less known family do as well. The foundations they have, it could serve the dual purpose of PR but also to give the humans with superb ability to live and continue their research and study.

It is far more than the 1% having all the wealth, what use do they have for it anyways, even if you owned a country, how to deal with all the people in it and for why. I am sure it goes back to the oldest trick in the jungle, you look after yourself, your family and your tribe. And then I think about contemplating the whole world as your tribe or family, but even in the small family group there are always those individuals that just live for certain things...having dealt with someone with an addiction, that already trows a curve ball into the small family, not to mention the world. So yeah getting along  comes down to politics, it just sucks being stuck no where...or being whipped to pull the cart...
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AmericanDreaming Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
Our mode of education has not been updated since the industrial revolution, which is why are taught a lot of math, much more than we will ever need in our day to day lives, and we learn so little of philosophy and creativity and the imagination.  It's why we are programmed to memorize facts, instead of conceptualizing ideas.  We need an overhaul of what we learn, how we are taught, and when we are taught it.  We are educated to be workers, not innovators.  We also need a culture change that, instead of reveling in stupidity, shames it. I don't ever want to hear someone expound on a subject to which they are knowingly ignorant, and hear pride in their voice the way I frequently do.

I just want to clarify, not that I think this was how you interpreted me, but I didn't mean to say everyone at the top is there simply because they exploit the masses. There are many people who are brilliant, lucky, innovative, opportunistic, and sometimes a combination thereof.  Not everyone at the top is evil, many are highly moral and philanthropic and genuinely want to give back, and to make the world a better place.

And I'm not arguing that people should dedicate their lives to any cause, there are bounds of reason.  You don't have to be a political activist, but vote, and know specifically why you vote for who you do.  And you don't have to be a crusader for a cause, but when something comes up in conversation, speak your mind; be honest, rational, and cogent.  You will change minds, and if not, at least plant seeds.  Another thing I've recently been paying closer attention to is the idea that every time you make a purchase, you are in essence casting a vote.  To buy Coke vs a bottle of water, for example, is a vote, and perhaps a more potent one that you will ever cast at the ballot box.  You can support companies that are environmentally friendly, and avoid those who aren't, etc. I know I sound like a corny idealist, (which is odd, because most people who know me in real life think I'm a pessimist and a cynic), but everyone can make a difference, but it starts with giving a shit, and giving a shit doesn't cost you a damn thing, it's just a state of mind.
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Sei-ey Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013  Student General Artist
Yeh, I know a bit the history of education, maybe someday I'll teach something.

No I didn't interpret you in that way, it's just the quote in the picture kinda unraveled the information in my brain about the overall structure of society. There is a lot more than to keep on figthing and not being afraid...

Well being an idealist, cynic and a pessimist is probably the cost of giving a shit, I've heard so many times "I don't want to think about that because its depressing" These concerns that we contemplate are a weight of sorts.  However I do think there is something good and bad in it, in a way the Dao.
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Sei-ey Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Student General Artist
Sorry about the horrible grammar, using touch screen keyboard.
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Marsmar Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2013
I've seen very few The Young Turks videos but that is a pretty good point. Nothing says "you won" to a group of people who want to strike fear into people more than reacting in the most fear mongering way possible.
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