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A Message from God by AmericanDreaming A Message from God by AmericanDreaming
Most of humanity claims to base their lives around the the teachings of prophets, but when they come face to face with one who claims to be in contact with a god, we know them to be insane. The only difference between the piss-soaked nut bag you move away from and the holy men of your religions, is the time in which they happen to have lived, that's it.


See more in my Christopher Hitchens folder.



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ReasonBear Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2015  Professional General Artist
I really didn't want to do this, but I haven't had my medication yet so I can't help it. The first sentence references two characters. One character makes a claim of sensory experience, and the other character makes a claim of knowledge absent any justification whatsoever. Since character two is the speaker, he takes the liberty of extending his ubiquitous claim of 'knowledge' to the reader by using the words 'we know'.

Sentence two employs something called 'trauma based programming', which is basically just a metaphorical slap in the face to reinforce the message being presented. The association of what may be referred to as divinity with what may be perceived as filth still seems to be quite popular these days. I guess evolution doesn't apply to self-deprecation.

In truth, each character is on equal footing with the other - each soul interprets his living experience as best they can with the tools they have. One thinks he hears, the other thinks he knows, and neither one can verify his claims tangibly. (words in a book are not tangible). The speaker's perspective alone applies force, bearing and direction to the statement, transforming a benign human experience into an insult.

In truth, human urine remains perfectly sterile (ask a surgeon), even though 'we know' it's disgusting.

What else do 'we know'? 

(This is not a defense of any belief system - it's a criticism of perception itself)
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Lupina24 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Many people move away because in short, prophets are notorious for exposing ugliness, wrongness and sin, be it about ourselves, society, culture etc that we'd rather not know about or want to address and it makes them defensive and the way many people cope with that is to remove or distance themselves from the source of disturbance.
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AmericanDreaming Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2014
That depends on whether they are in fact messengers from supreme beings as opposed to being mentally ill.  I suppose one can be mentally ill and still speak truths of a sort, but I would not take their visions, prophecies, or extra-human communications seriously without evidence.
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anasazidarkmoon Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm not anywhere near being an atheist, but I tend to take the words of anyone claiming to know the will of God with a large grain of salt (and a shot of tequila). =P
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AmericanDreaming Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014
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Marz2013 Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
god must need help! quick! to the bat mobile! 
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MarshmallowXSwirl Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I personally would ask some necessary questions to debunk them.
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Better a faithful man than a coward.

You claim not to mock, but continually you meekly hide behind the erroneous words of tiny men who could not accept what they could not understand as they lay down one hyperbolic quote after another.

At least if you're going to mock, degrade and persecute, have the originality to make your own slander and the courage to speak it yourself.
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AmericanDreaming Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014
I'm glad we can do this again, you're a glutton for punishment I see. Quoting someone you admire is not an act of cowardice, it is an act of humility, something your savior spoke a little bit about. I could have made this picture with words of my own, but I chose to defer to someone who was more experienced, worldly, well-versed, and witty than me.

This is an insightful and funny quote which does poke fun, but also makes a valid point that's unflattering to the religious. It's hardly "persecution." As a member of the religion responsible for more persecution than any other organization in history, one would think you'd be able to properly identify the act when you saw it.
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I'm not particularly religious, but more spiritual.

However, I would like to point out, given your continual show of historical ignorance, that Sufism is responsible for little, if any persecution. Yes, it's a form of Islam, but it's pacifistic in nature.

I'm sure you'd know that if you actually *read* about the religions and beliefs you habitually mock.
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AmericanDreaming Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014
So you're saying you are a Sufi Muslim? Based on our previous conversations I was under the impression you were a Christian. You act as though I should somehow know this. Sorry, my ESP is down at the moment.
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Is that so surprising to you?

Wisdom comes from many locations and to willfully ignore them is criminal behavior when it comes to sentience. Either we're lucky evolution brought us here and the opportunity should not be wasted, or we're blessed divinely and the gift should not be wasted. No matter how you look at it, wisdom, regardless of its source, is to be cherished and absorbed.
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AmericanDreaming Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014
It is surprising to me, considering you have criticized me repeatedly for "bashing" Christians but not Muslims, and then made a picture depicting what you thought (and were wrong on) were dead Coptic Christians, and went on a rant about how me and atheists like me love when Christians die (and then deleted the whole thing when the comment section blew up :lmao:)

This is not typical behavior for Muslims. I rarely (never) hear Muslims crying that Christians are being persecuted too much and that meanie atheists don't have the balls to criticize Islam (news flash, Islam is the lowest hanging fruit on the tree of criticizable religions). I also cannot recall an instance of a Muslim engaging in Old Testament apologetics.

So yes, I am surprised, and I suspect you may be lying, but I don't care, you are just too entertaining! Please go on, say some more words. :eager:
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Zucca-Xerfantes Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
You didn't know. And you wouldn't know I was a furry if I didn't have an icon to that end because my beliefs, like my pasttimes, are something I wear comfortably and never have to beat people over the head with.

Unlike you and unfortunately many others.

I'm not here to amuse you.

And this is where I'd normally say 'But you sure amuse me', but the case is, militant atheists like yourself I find as pitiable as Trekkies, as an example.

What do I mean by that?

I browsed your favorites and you maintain a stark majority ratio towards things of politics and Atheism. You accuse me and billions of others of being sheep simply because we believe in a higher power, yet here you are, on a website where *millions* of examples of beautiful artwork can be found and all you can focus upon is that which gets a bee in your bonnet.

Folk like you base your identity off of one characteristic, one facet of yourself. This same pity I feel for Trekkies, militant atheists, Warsies, the sad majority of Furries, gamers and so on is the same pity I have for fundamentalists  of any given religion who craft their identity around that fact.

I'm not giving you grief here because you're an atheist, AD. I'm doing it because, if your DA presence is telling, have based your life around just.... being an atheist.

Like I said, you have a portal to the art of millions at your fingertips, and you use this power to bitch, moan and complain about Religion (With an emphasis on Christianity) and talk about how you bitch, moan and complain about Religion with other people who bitch, moan and complain about Religion.

I can just see you going to the Louvre in Lyons and walking past row after row of magnificent art so you can spraypaint 'WASTE OF TALENT' under any painting of religious significance, then walking out again without so much as turning your head.

Take from that what you will, but for pity sake man, explore what this site has to offer a little more. Some people find God in nature, in doing something they enjoy with someone they love, in praising the subject of their belief in a house of worship, in singing, in dancing.... I find God in all of those things, but also, in seeing The Art of Creation, the holiest of arts, as exhibited by millions here on DA.

I'm not saying you'll see God looking back at you in these pages. All I'm saying is that it's a betrayal of the self to live through a facet of yourself rather than the whole enchilada.

In short... get some culture in you.

Unless it's art itself which repels you. After all... religion and spirituality inspired some of the greatest works of art known to man. Alas, you're probably the sort who would walk into the Sistine Chapel, put your hands on your hips and say 'What a waste of talent...' Or as long as we're on Michaelangelo's masterpieces, his sculpture of David was inspired by the Bible too. And not many know this because of the angle, but David's nudity was symbolic. Looking right at his face, you can see the boy is *terrified*. The dude's in better shape than you or I, but he's facing a giant. And there, inspired by RELIGION, is a tribute to human courage and overcoming the impossible.

At any rate, here's some stuff to get you started...

Take your time to look at other such works.

See the beauty... jimbobox.deviantart.com/art/Po…

The horror... davidrapozaart.deviantart.com/…

The danger... alex-ichim.deviantart.com/art/…

The serenity... www.deviantart.com/art/Landsca…

And expand out from there.

At any rate, that's about all for now. If you found all that amusing, my pity deepens. If you were prompted to explore a little more, you don't have to admit to it, lest your pride take a hit. I understand.

And who said I wasn't Christian? Not I. I am also a Reiki practitioner and find much wisdom in Hinduism and Buddhism. And each and every one of those religions would insist that the others are wrong, but as an independent man who sought spirituality, divorced of dogma, I can only shake my head in pity at those souls as well.

Happy art surfing.
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AmericanDreaming Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2014
I love that you browsed my favorites and from that gleaned what kind of person I am and determined that I am not cultured. :rofl: This coming from a furry. I also love that every time I refute one of your points, you simply abandon it and move onto the next ad hominem.

Ah, now I see. You simultaneously claim many religions and none so as to both dodge criticism and feel as though you're above everyone else. And now, after the third time you seek me out, ranting and behaving like a butt-hurt man-child, suddenly out comes your pity for me, and your noble concern that's deeply sincere I'm sure, and how magnanimous of you to end on a high note. :roll:

You are a clown.
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PrezDEagle Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2013
I believe if I want to believe
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AmericanDreaming Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2013
Inspiring.
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kalika12 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So true!!!:XD:
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2013
Hitchens was brilliant in his illustration of the ridiculousness of faith. 
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Limnoria Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2013
So true..
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Marsmar Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2013
As Uri Geller has shown, say you have divine powers and perform a quick trick or two and flocks of people will believe your bullshit. 
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ReasonBear Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2015  Professional General Artist
I was led to believe Geller never performed in public - if you know otherwise, please let me know
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Marsmar Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2015
He's performed in front of a live audience before. The guy's essentially a magician so he knows if he keeps his tricks simple, use as much of his own stuff as possible, and have a good slight of hand, he'll be able to fool even people watching him.
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ReasonBear Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2015  Professional General Artist
Dammit, I was thinking of the little cowboy dude - Ingo Swann - sorry. Now I remember Uri the spoonman from the National Enquirer of the 70's. Always get the names mixed up. Geller's 'American patron' was a fascinating scientist - Russian name - invented the bone microphone...They say he went crazy like Tesla but I have my own suspicions about the whole deal. Both Geller and Swann seem to have had 'support' from outside the limelight. Coincidentally, I just watched DeNiro embarrass himself in 'Red Lights' the other night. I must have ESP too!
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AmericanDreaming Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2013
Sad but true.
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